Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer)

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The result was delete. NW (Talk) 23:56, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer)

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Unsourced BLP, previously prod'd. Extant externs and ref are not about the person, they are about the music (and one extern is 404). Delete as inappropriate for inclusion. Jack Merridew 22:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

adding Yasuhiro Abe (producer). Cheers, Jack Merridew 18:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No reliable sources address him, appears to fail music, bio, creative, etc...Bali ultimate (talk) 22:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No way does this article pass. WP:MUSIC? no! WP:BIO? no! Coverage from third-party sources? fail...although the Billboard inline citation does suggest verifability...but notabilty? not suggested, so delete--^Trust_Me^THROW! 23:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC) (banned user)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 00:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 06:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 06:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meets WP:MUSIC #5 by having released two or more (in this case, at least five) albums from a major label, EMI = ~~keep~~. If someone could mine the Oricon site (I always get tangled up in the search results, or I'd do it myself) for citations, this can be trivially verified. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) (阿部靖広) article discography is in the fact part of the one of Yasuhiro Abe (安部恭弘). Completely confusing & misleading really. --KrebMarkt 20:26, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Gah, you're right about utter mess. For the moment, retaining that keep for Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) based on WP:MUSIC. Will try to untangle my thoughts on the other two later. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - The evidence of diff an editor screwed up the article in response to a PROD. --KrebMarkt 09:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, on further investigation, while Yasuhiro Abe initially appears to be prolific under both of his hats, he was not the main composer for most of those albums (or any at all?). The bar for producer has not been codified for producers, but I should be significantly higher than that for performer -- surely, at least, producing some actual hits -- and his activities do not seem to have reached that level. So, I'm reversing that keep and saying delete Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) and adding to that delete for Yasuhiro Abe (producer). —Quasirandom (talk) 14:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - as policy apparently sees this as a keep (see above), I'll go per WP:IAR. The albums this guy released aren't what I think the music policy cited above is about, they're not significant at all (cf. the lack of sources) even if released with a big label. User:Krator (t c) 14:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Utter mess There are two BLP articles for the very same person Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) and Yasuhiro Abe (producer).
Findings:
- CDs where this BLP composed at least one track and which ranked in charts:APDA-270 RZCD-45055 RZCD-45050 SRCL-5376 SRCL-5439 AVCD-30616 MECR-1054 AVCD-30616 MECR-1054 SRCL-6300 AVCD-23026 AVCD-31146 TKCA-73171 TKCA-73321. Click on " >>> ランキングデータへ" to view ranking + week(s) in charts.
- Full list of CDs:here
--KrebMarkt 15:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch; I've added the alternate version of the article to this discussion. Cheers, Jack Merridew 18:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This a big mess not only we have 2 x Yasuhiro Abe (阿部靖広) article here in AfD but we have also a notable Yasuhiro Abe (安部恭弘) that i just have added 19 refs. That's clearly a trap to exhaust editors looking for sources and coverages. --KrebMarkt 20:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Double down delete. Both Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) and Yasuhiro Abe (producer) need to go. JBsupreme (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone wondered about my position on this one, i'm for Delete both Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) and Yasuhiro Abe (producer). Yasuhiro Abe (阿部靖広) has composed in a dozen of CDs but he was rarely the main composer thus he can't be credited the merit of those CDs eventually making it into the charts. Had Yasuhiro Abe (阿部靖広) been the main composer of a slew of CDs that made it into the charts i could have voted keep but this is clearly not the case. --KrebMarkt 09:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Well, this is certainly unusual. Two people, same name, same country, both musicians, one notable, one not. Confusing for sure, but there you go. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
cmt whatever the outcome, very diligent work kreb. If i understand, one of this is a fork? That one should just be speedy deleted.Bali ultimate (talk) 15:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Whatever it's keep or delete, i try to get of full picture of situation before voting.

On this case i'm still in disbelief because the Yasuhiro Abe (video game composer) and Yasuhiro Abe (producer) were created on the very same day the April 11, 2008 [1] [2] with one hour of interval between the two creations.

The most confusing part is due to a botched PROD rescue by a indef blocked user who replaced the non notable Yasuhiro Abe (阿部靖広) discography with one chunk from the notable Yasuhiro Abe (安部恭弘). That's kind of move is near-criminal. --KrebMarkt 15:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Slightly confused here, if both articles are essentially about the same damn thing, wouldn't a merger be in order? -- Jelly Soup (talk) 03:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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